Nil update since December 2007:  Commenced 15 September 2007 (split May 2010).

 

Product of assorted enquiries and reading backwards by the writer along his mother's lineage.

Any error notifications or additional information or thoughts on people,

places or events mentioned herein would be much appreciated.

Please send to  john.mail "@" ozemail.com.au

 

 

( An index to Steiner stories )

 

~ Based on an earlier file named as below ~

 

 

FROM DONKEYS HILL

 

 

"ESELSHALDEN" (GERMANY)

 

 

TO WOMBAT CREEK

 

(MULGOA, AUSTRALIA)

 

 

The Steiner files

 

This compilation began in 2007 as the-steiners-150yrs.htm  (2007 was 150th year since the arrival of Christian Steiner on the Gottorp).   This file grew too large for easy perusal.   It has now been split up as follows:

steiner-stories-index.htm                  (overview and guide to other files)

steiners-germany.htm                       (Steiners and Germany)

steiners-mulgoa-camden.htm          (The family began at Mugoa, and they may have dwelled briefly at Camden)

steiners-wagga-wagga.htm              (The family relocated south, settling permanently at Wagga Wagga)

pomingalarna-gold-discovery.htm    (under construction - gold found on C. Steiner's land)

 

 

Other related research

Thus far no others researching these Steiners from Eselshalden have been noted.

 

Ongoing work


The Brisbane Courier, Saturday 15 March 1879, reported "A new discovery has been made at Pomingalarna, near Wagga, in the shape of a rich reef, found on the property of Mr. C. Steiner, which is to be worked by a company".

That may be seen at
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/888497

The Mr. C. Steiner referred to there is Christian Steiner who had establilshed his winery at Pomingalarna.

His son Cecil, my grandfather, had told me when I was boy (and getting a bit interested in geology) that they family had once had a gold mine there, but it wasn't much good Cecil thought.

That's about all I'd even known of the matter till when the Brisbane Courier report of 15 March 1879 was found.

Keith Collin, Principal of the Riverina Environmental Education Centre, has informed the writer that at Pomingalarna reserve there is indeed "many quartz veins about 3 m wide which were mined for gold. The veins seemed to have been followed for about 10-30 metres and have been opened to about 3 metres deep".

 

http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/888497

 


 

OVERVIEW:  Some snippets from the files:

 

Eselshalden - fountain and information plaque (Photo:  Peter Fohr, 2007)

Eselshalden was settled in 1722 or 1723 and the first Steiners 

arrived there some years after that.

 

 

CHRISTIAN STEINER

( Ancestor of the writer's mother, Doreen Phyllis Byrnes , nee Steiner )

[Christian Steiner now lies at grave Number 3 of Row 25 in Presbyterian section 1a

 of the Wagga Wagga Monumental Cemetery - marked "Farewell wife & children".]

 

 

 

The Swabian Alb (a.k.a. Swabian Jura) is a strike-elongate tract of Jurassic and younger, strata dipping southeast.

 

The underlying Triassic strata, largely sandsfone, from a parallel tract along its NW side called the Schwarzwald of Swabian/Franconian Forest (Schwabisch-Frankischen Wald).   The compound name nomenclature is likely not because of any great geological or ecological difference but only because it spans the border of former major territorial identities, Swabia and Franconia (?).

 

 

Showing relationship of the Swabian Alb area (Jurassic limestones and oolitic ironstone) to the Swabian forest (Schwarzwald) area situated to the NW of it (Keuper and Muschelkalk strata),

from Geyer and Gwinner (1991)

 

 

 

 

Map of Wurttemburg kingdom area as it existed in 1810-1945.

 

 

Illustrating the use of the term "Swabian Forest"

 

 

Eselshalden lies within the Franconian-Swabian Forest, also locally called Welzheim Forest, between the towns of Steinenberg and Welzheim.

 

 

 

Eselshalden east of Steinenberg, where Christian Steiner was born in 1813 (or 1812?).

 

 

Eselshalden location, and showing a quarry area just west of the village.

Some stone from there is said to have gone to the Ulm cathedral.

In this quarry sandstone is of the Stubensandstein Formation,

(Middle Triassic Keuper Group).

 

 

Stubensandstein is commonly used for dry wall constructions in gardens.

It looks quite similar to the stone at Wombat Creek where

Christian would be heading to.

 

 

 

 

Eselshalden street and the history plaque at the fountain (Photos: Peter Fohr)

 

 

 

MORE ABOUT ESELSHALDEN AND THE DISTRICT AROUND IT

 

Eselshalden was an uninhabited forested area up until 1722, when Konrad Bez settled there.  Bez had been a citizen of Steinenberg, till 1791.  (Der Hof "Eselshalden" fing 1722 zu existieren an, vorher war es "Wald in den Eselshalden" Der 1. Bewohner soll gewesen sein, Konrad Bez bis 1721 Bürger von Steinenberg.)

 

From the above (from church records per a contact of Peter Fohr's) it appears that the settlement of Eselshalden commenced in ca. 1722.  According to information received from Stadt Welzheim it was "Oktober 1723" when the first inhabitants of Eselshalden began living there; and some years after that a family named Steiner from Krähenof settled down in Eselshalden.  

 

The size of the settlement in the 1800s, or how many Steiners may have been there is unknown at present.

But around the mid 1800s there must have been for some reason a considable exodus of them.  Emigration records indicate that  Besides Christian, 4 others left, mostly destined for Austria:

 

Gottlieb Steiner. Born: 15 June 1811 - Edelshalden.  Applied: Feb 1846. Destination: Austria.

Johann Gottlieb Steiner. Born:: 13 May 1839 - Edelshalden. Applied: Feb 1846. Destination: Austria. 

Margaretha Katharina Steiner. Born: 4 Nov 1840 - Edelshalden. Applied: Feb 1846. Destination: Austria.

Anna Maria Steiner. Born:: 30 Dec 1842  - Edelshalden. Applied: Feb 1846. Destination: Austria.

The three children presumably left in the care of the 35 year old Gottlieb Steiner.

 

And earlier Gottlieb Steiner is known who was born in Eselshalden in (est.) 1805:

Johann George married Ursula Közle on 11 NOV 1872 in Holzheim, Danube Circle, Wurttemberg.  The had 16 children.  Information in this case, going back to Eselshalden came from:

Title: Holzheim Kirchenbuch, 1559-1927.
Author: Evangelische Kirche Holzheim (OA. Göppingen).

Publication: Stuttgart: Ev. Landeskirchenamt, 1972.

 

Thus in all, nine Steiners are known of in Eselshalden in the early 1800s.

 

Following backwards from nformation received from Stadt Welzheim, some years after 1723 when  Eselshalden began a family named Steiner came there from "Krähenof" this is possibly the early farm area called also Kreehenhof near Steinenberg where indeed there is evidence that many Steiners lived.   One recorded lineage is that an Ulrich Steiner of Lorch married Ursula Wieland, and died 1590. His son Georg Steiner was born about 1665.  He in turn had a son Christoph Steiner, who was born about 1613 in Alfdorf.  One of his descendants, Jerg Steiner married Anna Barbara Müller from Welzheim.  His son Jonas Steiner, born in 1723, entered service as woodworker on the "Kreehenhof" next Steinenberg.

 

 

Ulm 'Cathedral', and enlargement showing different colours of the stone blocks.   It was never a Cathedral in the sense of being the seat of a Bishop but is given this name on account of being an architectural masterpiece. 

 

 

Still from a 3D computer model of the Ulm Cathedral created by 27 year old student architect

at the University of Karlsruhe, Jan-Ruben Fisher.  

 

Inside the spire, showing the intricate lacework-like carved stone composition of very open construction, with an octagonal central core carrying the spiral stairs to the top; and close-up of stone.  (Photo taken 2004: Google Commons, added by 'Jessetrumpet45')

According to the tourist brochure "Swabian Alb.  The 7 keys to the Swabian Alb. Infoguide. Fascination Swabian Alb", Key No. 2 is "The Adventure of geology - Anyone who 'gets to the bottom of the Swabian Alb' will find fantastic testimony to the most varied epochs of the Earth's history .. The entire Swabian Alb is basically one single geological theme park, a veritable 'Jurassic Park' (also has 350 volcanic vents, maars)".  It says that the Lower Jurassic sequence comprises dark limestone, clays, marl and oil shale; and that the Middle Jurassic has limestone and oolitic ironstone, and that "Ulm Cathedral was built using Middle Jurassic stone" (also cites the Donzdorf sanstone as a geological highlight.   (http://files.jugendnetz.net/EnglInfoGuideEnglishalb.pdf)

 

Another source states that sandstone for the spire facade was quarried in Alsace as part of reparations to Germany after the Franco-Prussian War, which ended in 1871.    Just how much stone (if any)  from the quarry between Eselshalden and Steinbruck went into the Cathedral is not yet known.

 

Currently Eselshalden belongs to Welzheim district. 

 

There is today a STEINER engineering works at Welzheim:

 

 

This company of the name Steiner has not so far been contacted (emails to it not replied to).

 

 

From Wuerttemberg state records.  Approval for Johann Gottlieb Haeberle and family to emigrate

to Sydney.  Dated in Weinsberg on 8 May 1857.  This was not long before  the ship left, on

21 May 1857.  (Source:  Copy obtained by Phil McArthur).  On the same day, 8 May,

he signed the Certificate of Abandonment of Citizenship, renouncing "every kind

of civil interconnection with the state of Wuerttemberg, and committing himself

not to stir against His Majesty the King and the Kingdom for a period of

one year, and for the same time to remain liable for any claims that

might come up against him to the aurhorities of the Kingdom.

 

 

 

Karl Ludwig Wilhelm Kirchner who  arranged much of the assisted immigration to New South Wales.

 

 

 

The 1850s emigration peak.  German emigration peaked at 250,000 in 1854.  It dropped away to around

100,000 in 1857 and continued falling, due both to better harvests and improving industrial employment

at home and the bubble-burst of the early 1850s boom of the English-speaking countries in 1857.

The result of the above mid 1850s peak of local conditions in Germany manifested in NSW as

the third wave/intake of assisted vinedressers arriving in 1855-1856.  In 1855 nearly 1700

assisted German immigrants (380 families) arrived, in seven ships to Sydney and

two to Morton Bay.  The NSW  government bounty system was terminated

soon after this peak influx, in 1856.

 

After the termination of convict transportation to Australia the was a justification for paid government assistance to certain categories of immigrants.   With the discovery of gold the immigration rate rose naturally and the former justification for assisting people to come here waned.   Some of the likely factors influencing emigration from Germany are shown above.

 

The workers who came on the Gottorp immigrant transport were committed to work for two years as farm-workers for a yearly wage of £20 sterling plus rations.  Rations were set as 20 lb flour, 19 lb meat, 2 lb sugar, 1/2 lb coffee and 1/4 lb tea per week.  They had to repay £18 for their fare, which left them £22 for their two years work.  

 

It was at Mulgoa where Christian married Elizabeth Rheinhardt and the family began in Australia.  There  Sophia Wilhemmina Steiner became the first family member born on Australian soil, on the 9th Oct 1859.  Sophia Wilhemmina appears to have been named after a child of Mrs Eisenhuth's, suggesting a close connection between the two families.  Christian likely would have been working under Martin Eisenhuth.   The name Martin Eisenhuth appears on the Steiners' marriage certificate, as witness.

 

Some of this is known because the Eisenhuths kept a family book, of which a full copy is preserved still on the property.  In this book it shows that "Sophia Wilhemmina" was the name of one of the six Eisenhuth children born there.   Sophia Wilhemmina Steiner born 9 Oct 1859, Mulgoa, was also the Steiners' first child.   Thus the Eisenhuths and Steiners must have been close  (needs double checking that 

the record in the Eisenhuth's book is not just them recording the Steiner child's birth at this locality?).

The Vindresser's (M. Eisenhuth's) house.  Well-built stone house.  Built before the big

Winbourne mansion house was commenced, perhaps to test the quality and

workability of the local stone.  (Photo:  Br. Moy Hitchins)

 

 

Christian's assumed overseer Martin Eisenhuth was a vinedresser on the Winbourne estate of George Cox.  According to Cox records he had been bought out from Germany (Bavaria) in '1848' to take charge of the vineyard.  He stayed in the employ of the Cox family for many years and was in charge of the vineyards and cellars.  Martin Eisenhuth died in 1905, aged 75.  [The arrival date of '1848' appears not to tally with early date entry in the Eisenhuth family book and this is yet to be resolved.]

 

The Cox property Winbourne had a large wine cellar and scale of operations is shown by the large pump base ruin on the Nepean River below.  This relates to improvements after Christian's time there, to pump water to a large concrete holding tank up on the hillside, from where it could gravity feed to irrigate the vines or other crops.   No actual illustrations of the vineyard itself seem to have survived(?).

 

Br dePorres McCrae standing at base of the ruin of large pump works established

for the household, agricultural and vineyard needs of the Cox family.  The

site is at the eastern end of the Norton's basin volcanic breccia. 

(Photo:  Christian Brothers, Winbourne)

 

 

 

The Winbourne mansion at its peak.  The stone was quarried at Wombat Creek.

 

 

 

Winbourne after it had been burnt out by the 1920 fire.

 

 

 

Winbourne main entrance gateway (some time after the fire).

 

 

 

SETTING FORTH FROM MULGOA - THE TREK SOUTH

 

The Australian Steiner family began at Mulgoa with the birth, probably at home and probably at Wombat Creek on Winbourne property, of the child christened Sophia Wilhemmina, on 9 October, 1859.

 

A second child, George Peter Steiner, was also home born at Winbourne, on 6 Jul 1861.

 

But their third child, Christian Steiner, is registered as born on 27 Sep 1863 in Camden. 

 

This suggests that the family may have left Mulgoa and relocated to further up the Nepean valley from  Mulgoa area by that time.  This however is not known for certain, and instead Elizabeth might just have been in Camden for some other reason when the birth came, or else maybe she had gone there especially for the birth?  

 

It seems more likely that the family actually had left Mulgoa.  Christian was bound to the Cox vineyard at Mulgoa for two years under contract.  As noted above, after deducting cost of the ship passage fare Christian had worked under contract for £11 per year.  This probably was not good earnings for the times.  For example, in the 1858 Parliamentary Inquiry into conditions (referring to earlier events in Germany) there is mention that it would perhaps cost £60 to keep a man for 3-4 months (= £240 per annum).

 

The third child, Leonard Steiner, was also born at Camden, according to later recorded information.  However, registration of that Camden birth has not yet been located and this might suggest that 1865 was the year the family left the district and headed much further south.  A death notice about Christian, published in Wagga Wagga (in full below) stated that he was a native of "Steinberg" and had come to the colony in 1857, residing close to Sydney for about ten years before he moved to Wagga.  That would suggest they left the Sydney region in ca. 1867.  A death notice about Elizabeth in the same newspaper later on also points to 1867 as when the couple arrived in the district, however the family is known to have already been down south, at Westbrook, by early 1866 because of a birth recorded there.

The Steiner family eventually became well established, and multiplied, in the Wagga Wagga area.  Leonard Steiner married Ellen Taylor there, and this is where this writer's grandfather (Doreen's father Cecil Steiner) was born in 1890.

On the map below it can be tracked where they went to.  They first went to Westbrook, which place name is seen in the lower right corner of the map.  After that they moved to Lake Albert which is the body of water SSW of Wagga Wagga seen where the arrow is pointing to.   After Lake Albert they moved to the western outskirts of Wagga Wagga where Christian finally had a vineyard of his own at  Pomingalarna.  There may have been some connection with a small gold mine in the area (as mentioned by the writer's grandfather) but nothing of this is known.  Later on the family/descendants apparently spread further southwestwards, Uranquinty and The Rock (but again this is just according to vague memories of what my grandfather used to tell me and as yet no details of any of this later history of the family have been sought or come across):

The Steiners when they first went south from Camden went to Westbrook, shown here in the lower

right corner.  After that they went to Lake Albert which is where the arrow is pointing to. At that

time Lake Albert was probably smaller, as it was increased by damming in the 1890s. After

that, Christian established his own vineyard at Pomingalarna, just west of Wagga Wagga.

 

The Steiner family may have left the Sydney region pretty soon after the birth of Leonard occurred in Camden in 1865 (perhaps why the birth registration may have gone astray?), since Gottleib Reinhardt Steiner was registered as born on 9 January 1866 at Westbrook.

The reason for the move south can only be speculated on.  It is curious that two family lines (Clout, Steiner) that later joined at Wagga Wagga both come from the Camden area and both left to move south in or about the same year, 1865.  A common cause like crops failure by flood or disease (?rust) might possibly be involved.

So far there is no knowledge at all about why the Steiners would have moved to Westbrook, or even where it was exactly that they moved to.  Even what is meant by "Westbrook" is not yet certain.  It is a minor place name associated with Tarcutta Creek, west of Batlow.  An alternate name for Tarcutta Creek is Oberne Creek.  And an alternate name for Westbrook might also have been Oberne Creek.  In the Tarcutta Creek valley today, there are two small place names, Oberne Creek and Westbrook.  The main road through Oberne Creek is now called Westbrook Road and a place called Welstbrook is a little south of that called Oberne Creek.   None of the places have, or ever have had, any sizeable population.  Minor preliminary enquiry has not revealed any knownledge of Steiners or any other Germans ever having lived in the area.  

 

It seems like the Steiners, for whatever reason they went to Westbrook did not stay there very long.  Gottleib Reinhardt was born at Westbrook in January 1866 but Elizabeth Fredericka was born at Lake Albert in January 1869.   Thus they may have been at Westbrook for only two or three years, or even less.  Memorial articles in a Wagga Wagga newspaper after the deaths of each of Christian and Elizabeth Steiner both suggest 1867 as the time they came to the Wagga district.  This could well refer to when they arrived at Lake Albert.  And if that is correct then they are only at Westbrook for a year or so.

 

 

LAKE ALBERT 

 

Why the family moved to Lake Albert, then probably a little inhabited area with a small lake about 5 km south of Wagga Wagga, is doubtless somehow connected with wine-making, and with Christian's considerable interest/experience in that occupation by this time.

 

The year 1867 seems to be the most likely time when the Steiners arrived at Lake Albert.

Wine making at Lake Albert is believed to have started probably around 1870, a little after the Steiners are known to have moved there.  The vineyard was commenced there probably by Sir William Macleay (1820-1891), being the Macleay after whom the Macleay Museum at Sydney University is named, and it is highly likely that this is who Christian went to work for at Lake Albert.   However, this is not yet actually confirmed, or if Christian worked for William Macleay of perhaps some other member/s of the Macleay family engaged in wine production at Lake Albert.

Wine Tasting – Lake Albert Vineyard 1895.

The Last Load – Lake Albert Vineyard 1895.

Views of Lake Albert Vineyard - from the Sydney Mail of 4 September 1897.  The photo labelled

"view of lake & vineyard" suggests that the vineyard was located right on the lake's shore.

 

Sir William Macleay is a quite famous person in the history of NSW and there is an interesting aside concerning him that comes from the diarist Dr Karl Scherzer.  On his 1858 visit to Sydney, this diarist visited Macleay, already by then a famous naturalist, at his Elizabeth Bay home.  Scherzer was moved to write some rather remarkable words in his diary after his 10 November 1858 visit to Macleay:

William Macleay became a magistrate at Wagga Wagga by 1841.  Attracted by viticulture he formed his forty-acre (16 ha) vineyard at Lake Albert near Wagga Wagga in the 1870s (Hoare et al., 1974). 

According to some local historians, Lake Albert is an "artificial" lake covering 125ha which was built in the 1890s on what was known as Swampy Plains and named after Prince Albert.  

 

Lake Albert may well have been enhanced in depth and extent in the 1890s but it seems to have had an existence before then because  Elizabeth Fredericka Steiner was born at Lake Albert in January 1869, and the  birth record states "Albert Lake", not Swampy Plains.

 

 

 

BIRTHS DEATH AND MARRIAGES - KEY FACTS

 

Some known basic information recorded under the Births, Deaths and Marriages Act/s for some Steiners of interest are as follow.  The ones for Germany were kindly extracted from church relevant to Eselshalden by a neighbour of Peter Fohr:

 

 

'''' Potentially related German Steiner records """"

 

Johannes Steiner (1755-1840) geb. 16.06.1755 im Krehenhof.  (Born in Krehenhof.)

- Die Eltern waren Jonas Steiner u. Anna Katharina geb. Köngeter.  (His parents.)

- Er war Ausdingbauer und gestorben 23.02.1840.  (Died in Ausdingbauer.)

- Er heiratete zweimal.  (He married twice)

- Aus der ersten Ehe am 22.06.1773 in heirat in Steinenberg kamen 4 Kinder zur

  Welt.  (From the first marriage, in Steinenberg four children came into the world.)

-- Seine Frau Barbara geb.Kohnle? geb. im Jahr 1747 gestorben am 07.02.1791.

    (His wife Barbara was born 1747 in ?Kohnle and died in 1791.)

- Kinder:  

--  1.Johannes geb.03.06.1774.

--  2. Johann Jakob 07.012.1777.

--  3. Johann Richard 17.04.1781.

--  4. Johannes Georg 08.07.1784 gefallen am 07.06.1813 in der Schlacht.....  (Killed in battle.)

- Nun zur zweiten Ehe aus dieser Ehe kamen 7 Kinder hervor.   (Seven children from second marriage.)

--  1. Christina geb. am 03.08.1792 heiratete 1817 in Steinenberg.  (Christina, married in Steinenberg.)

--  2. Christian geb. am 15.12.1794 gestorben am 02.07.1815.

--  3. Margarethe 12.01.1796 heiratete 1824 in Bühlertann.

--  4. Rosine geb. am 27.01.1800. Heiratete 1830 in Eselshalden.  (Rosine married in Eselshalden.)

--  5.  Anna Maria 06.05.1802 Heiratete 1828 in Steinenberg.

--  6. Gottfried geb. am 15.12.1804 gestorben 30.09.1878 

--  7. Gottlieb geb. 10.03.1808 heiratete 1838 in Eselshalden.    (Gottlieb married in Eselshalden.)

 

Aus der ersten Ehe vom Sohn Johannes geb. am 03.06.1774 heiratete wahrscheinlich 22.08.1798 kamen wieder zwei Söhne hervor die hießen ..  (From the Johannes born 3.6.1774 who married probably on

22.8.1798 came two more sons):

- 1. Johanne Georg geb. 27.08.1809 heiratete 1832.

- 2. Johannes geb. am 14.01.1817.

 

"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

 

Thus it is known so far, from the church records per a contact of Peter Fohr's, that the settlement of Eselshalden commenced in ca. 1722; which accords will with information (possibly based on the same records source?) received from Stadt Welzheim that it was " Oktober 1723" when the first in habitants of Eselshalden began living there.  Stadt Welzheim added that some years after that a family named Steiner from Krähenof settled down in Eselshalden.  

 

This Steiner from Krähenof is probably the abovementioned Johannes Steiner (1755-1840) who was born in Krehenhof, which is in Ortschaft Schmalegg of Stadt Ravensburg nearly at the southern border of Württemberg.  Johannes Steiner's first son of his second marriage was Christian, born in 1794 probably at Eselshalden if the family was then living there, as it seems.  

 

If Christian Steiner born 1812 in Eselshalden was son of Christian Steiner born 1794 in Eselshalden then the second Christian's father would have then been 18.  It is possible, but this link has not yet had any evidence for it found.

 

 

Christian Steiner  [12Sep1812/13? - 2May1893, aged 80/81 .. different sources differ by 1 yr]

 

Birth/baptised: "Steinberg, ?Wurtemmberg, Germany"  (Actually should be "Steinenberg"), born Eselshalden

Parents: Christian Steiner, farmer; mother’s name unknown.

Immigration: Arrived in the colony in 1857 per the ship Gottorp from Wurtemmburg

Marriage: 4 Oct 1858, at Mulgoa Church of England; minister George Vidal; witness Martin Eisenhulth (faded writing - Martin Eisenhult?). [George Vidal was parish rector 1855-1865.]

Spouse: Elizabeth Rheinhardt, born in Germany (Died 15 Feb 1902 at Darlow St., Wagga Wagga; buried 16 Feb 1902 at Presbyterian cemetery, Wagga Wagga, buried by Presbyterian minister Charles Bell).

Spouse’s parents: Unknown.

Occupation noted at time of death: Vigneron.

Died: 2 May 1893, Wagga Wagga.

Buried: 4 May 1893; minister J. McIntyre, Presbyterian.

Children (when/where born):

Sophia Wilhemmina Steiner, 9 Oct 1859, Mulgoa.

George Peter Steiner, 6 Jul 1861, Winbourne.

Christian Steiner, 27 Sep 1863, Camden. (A.k.a. Christopher Steiner)

Leonard Steiner, 1865, Camden.

Gottleib Reinhardt Steiner, 9 Jan 1866, Westbrook.

Elizabeth Fredericka Steiner, 17 Jan 1869, Albert Lake.

 

Taken from The Wagga Advertiser of Thu 04 May 1893: 

"Death of Mr C STEINER - The many friends of Mr C. Steiner will learn with regret of that gentleman’s death, which occurred at his late residence, Darlow-street Wagga on Tuesday last. Mr Steiner was a native of Steinberg and came to this colony in 1857, and resided close to Sydney for about ten years when he came to Wagga. Shortly after he came to this district he entered into an engagement with Mr MacLeay as a gardener and while in that capacity he planted the vines in the Lake Albert Vineyard. He remained in the service of Mr MacLeay at Lake Albert for a little over eight years, and then purchased a piece of land on the Murrumbidgee at Pomingalarna where he planted a vineyard for himself, and which is now known as The Riverview Vineyard. Mr Steiner entered largely into his business as a wine-grower, and after a few years of industrious work had improved his holding considerably. About three years ago he sold his vineyard at a good price, and removed to Wagga where he resided privately until the time of his death. He was highly respected and during his residence in this district had made many friends. At the time of his death he was in his 81st year. He leaves a widow and four children – three sons – one daughter. All the children are married and with the exception of one who lives in Euababalong, they are residents of Wagga. The funeral is announced to leave his late residence at 2 o’clock this afternoon and the remains are to be buried in the Presbyterian portion of the Wagga Cemetery."

[Notes: The informant of his death was his son George who recorded he was aged 46 when he married Elizabeth. The informant at Elizabeth’s death was their son Leonard and he did not know where his mother was born, other than that it was in Germany, nor the names of her parents.  The child Gottleib is not mentioned/recalled in later records and may have died in infancy(?).  Christian's grave is Number 3 of Row 25 in the Presbyterian section 1a of the Wagga Wagga Monumental Cemetery and tells us "Farewell wife & children" (A THANK YOU to Yvonne Scrivener for information on the grave and for finding this death notice in the Wagga Advertiser).]

 

 

 

Elizabeth Steiner nee Rheinhardt [ ?1822 – February 1902, aged 80 ]

 

The Wagga Advertiser – Tue 18 Feb 1902

"Death of an Old Resident - Mrs Elizabeth Steiner, a well-known and respected resident of the district, died at her residence, Newtown, on Saturday afternoon. The deceased at the time of her death was in her 80th year, and came to the Wagga district 35 years ago with her deceased husband, who had been appointed manager of the Lake Albert Vineyard by the late Sir Wm Mackay. Subsequently, Mr and Mrs Steiner established a vineyard of their own at Pomingalarna, where they resided until the death of Mr Steiner. Mr and Mrs Steiner had a large family, most of whom reside in this part of the State. The funeral took place on Sunday last, the remains being interred in the family enclosure in the Presbyterian portion of the Wagga Cemetery, the Rev C Bell officiating at the grave. A large concourse of mourners attended the funeral the arrangements for which were carried out by Mr John McIntosh."

 

 

Leonard Steiner  [ 1865 – 28Jun1944, aged ?77-80 ]

 

Birth: 1865, Camden

Parents: Christian Steiner and Elizabeth Rheinhardt

Marriage:

Spouse: Ellen Taylor (Born 20 June 1871 at Pyalong, Victoria; died 10 May 1928 at Lewisham private hospital in Wagga Wagga; buried 11 May 1928 at the Presbyterian cemetery in Wagga Wagga).

Spouse’s parents: William Taylor and Eleanor Curtis (known as Ellen, born in Williamtown, Melbourne).

Place and date: 15 April 1889, in the St John Mission Hall, Wagga Wagga; minister W.H. Pownall.

Witnesses: George Steiner, Catherine Taylor.

Usual occupations at time of marriage: Christian - farmer; Ellen - living with parents at Wagga Wagga.

Died: 28 Jun 1944, at 44 Evans Street, Wagga Wagga.

Buried: 29 Jun 1944, at the Presbyterian cemetery, Wagga Wagga, by minister C.J. Wells (Methodist).

Children (when/where born):

Cecil William Leonard, 10 April 1890, Wagga Wagga.

Ormond Clarence Christian Steiner, 24 July 1892, born at Sandy Creek (Uranquinty).  (A.k.a. Norman)

Ajsless James Steiner, 28 March 1895, Uranquinty

Lilly Olive May Steiner, 29 April 1897, Uranquinty

Olive Lilly May Steiner, 29 April 1897, Uranquinty

Decimus Leslie Steiner, 18 Feb 1899, Uranquinty

Laney James Steiner, 14 Nov 1905, Wagga Wagga.  (A.k.a. Jesse Steiner?)

 

[Other rather uncertain notes: The German immigrants to the Nepean Valley were largely from Catholic areas of Germany but religious denominations on Steiner family BDM certificates are of mixed Protestant nature with no overall trend.  The family that Leonard and Ellen formed may have carried forward some Methodist connection it would seem, which perhaps may have been Ellen's choice.  It is noted that unlike others they are recorded to have married in a mission hall rather than a church, which perhaps may have been a Wesleyan service (the affiliation of minister W.H. Pownall is unknown).  A Wesleyan connection came via Ellen's father William Taylor who was a shoemaker born in Cambridge, England, about 1833.  It is noted that Leonard was buried by a Methodist minister and Ellen’s parents are known to have been married by Methodist rites at Collingwood, Victoria in 1856 (her father William being Methodist and her mother Eleanor Curtis had been baptised Anglican).  At the time of his death, Leonard was living at 44 Evans Street, which was apparently the home of his son Norman (Ormond) who was the informant of the death.  Norman’s information resulted in his mother’s name being recorded incorrectly as Emily, rather than Ellen, but she had been dead by then for 16 years. Elizabeth Rheinhardt’s (Leonard's grandmother's) surname occurs in various spellings in sparse records, including as Rynehart. It may be interesting therefore that a Frederick Joseph Clout, who was a descendant of the Clout family which Leonard's son Cecil would marry into, had in 1911 married a Mary Clare Rynehart in Wagga Wagga who was daughter of John Rynehart and Amy Curtis – Curtis being another grandparent name for Leonard - and all may just possibly be related Wagga families?  There are many other 'possible/dubious' connections noted in passing but which have not been checked on.]

 

 

Cecil William Leonard Steiner [10Apr1890 - 23Feb1969, aged 79 ]

 

Birth: 10 April 1890, Wagga Wagga.

Parents: Leonard Steiner, farmer and Ellen Taylor.

Marriage:

Spouse: Elsie Mary Clout, known as "Else" or "Queenie" (Born 22 Nov 1893 at Wagga Wagga; died 6 Nov 1959 at Western Suburbs Hospital, Croydon; buried 7 Nov. 1959 at Catholic cemetery, Rookwood).

Spouse’s parents: George Clout Jnr (by then deceased) and Mary Louisa Hart.

Place and date: 19 Aug 1914, at St Michael’s Catholic church, Wagga Wagga; minister M. Buckley.

Usual occupations at time of marriage: Cecil - coach-trimmer; Elsie – tailoress.

Died: 23 Feb 1969, United Gardens private hospital, Summer Hill.

Buried: 25 Feb 1969, Catholic cemetery, Rookwood.

Children (when/where born):

Doreen Phyllis Steiner,

Raymond Leonard Steiner, 18 May 1920, Wagga Wagga.

 

 

WHERE DID FURTHER DESCENDANTS GO TO?

The above records show that some of the later Steiners moved to Uranquity southwest of Wagga Wagga.  Born at Uranquinty in the 1890s were Ormond Clarence Christian Steiner, Ajsless James Steiner, Lilly Olive May Steiner, Olive Lilly May Steiner and Decimus Leslie Steiner.

 

Cecil Steiner, the writer's grandfather, is remembered to have often spoken of "The Rock" when talking about Wagga Wagga or his relatives there.  Perhaps this only meant that they sometimes went on outings to the rock for picnics or excursions.  Or more likely it meant some of them lived in some vicinity that was out towards The Rock, from Wagga Wagga (futher southwest than Uranquinty where most of Cecil's brothers and sisters were born - see above map).  A possible but much less likely alternative could be that some family lived near a different 'Rock', being the one 3 km southeast of Albert Lake that is called "the Rock" or "Rocky Hill".  

 

 

Uranquinty is a small town 15km SW of Wagga Wagga on the road to The Rock, population ca. 640.

 

The hill most often known as "The Rock" is at the township of the same name, 32km SW of Wagga Wagga.

 

ACKNOWLEDMENTS

The Council (Rathaus) of Weizhelm, the town near the hamlet of Eselshalden, and one individual Councillor in particular ( Peter Fohr who kindly photographed in Eselshalden for me and sent the photos herein) are thanks.   In Australia very special and kind help with "understanding Germans/Germany etc.") came from Jenny Paterson of 3A King Edward Street, Croydon.  Jenny offered all sorts of general advice, even on topics like how to read Old German handwriting which are totally beyond me, plus specific advice for finding my relatives.   Jenny is a specialist historian on the people who came to Eastern Australia from SW Germany pre-1890, and the tips and advice she gave were very helpful.  From her own records Jenny soon picked some of my Steiner family, e.g. she had copy of a Jakob Steiner's application to emigrate from Eselshalden to Peru in 1852 with his wife and five children and wrote to me "He was no doubt related to Christian, probably closely - it's a tiny place".   Jenny gave me photocopies of notes and many old maps of the Germans States, a rather confusing business, and stated "That should give you a crash course in German historical and political geography".  Still not everything Jenny gave me has been fully absorbed, and studying it further will, I expect, lead to furthere thoughts of avenues to continue probing backwards along.   Some of Jenny's papers are listed in the references below.

 

REFERENCES

Anonymous (?Trevor Nagorka), 1977.  Shipboard diary.  May 12 - September 20, 1857.

 

[No full copy seen; Printed, pp. 15-23.  Publication place unknown (photocopy); presumably a Victorian family history book.   Obtained from the Bega Valley Genealogy Society. Call no. Z5.19.03.   This is a translation from the diary of Mr Christian Nagorka, 1826-1908, who sailed on the ship Gottorp to Australia). ] 

Burnett, B., Nixon, R. and Wrigley, J., 2005.  They worked at Camden Park.  Camden Historical Society.  90 pp.

Burkhardt, G.   The Places of Origin of German Immigrants to NSW, 1849 - 1860.

Carmichael, Lynne, 1973.   German migration past and present.  Thesis.  [Not traced].

 

Cloos, P. and Tampke, Jürgen (Eds.), 1993.   "Greetings from the Land where Milk and Honey flows" - The German Migration to NSW 1838-1858.  Southern Highlands Publishers, Canberra.

 

Cox, G.C. 1980.  George Cox of Mulgoa and Mudgee.   Letters to his sons 1846-49   [State Library of NSW  E929.209944/C877.3/1].

 

Evans, R., 1997.  Germany's convict exports.  History Today, No. ?, pp.11-17.  [photocopy only was seen.]

 

Geyer, O.F. and Gwinner, M.P., 1991.  Geologie von Baden Württemberg. Stuttgart.

 

Harmstorf, I., 1971.  German migration, with particular reference to Hamburg, to South Australia.  Thesis.  [Not traced].

Hoare, M., Rutledge, M., 1974.  Macleay, Sir William John (1820-1891).  Australian Dictionary of Biography, Volume 5, Melbourne University Press.  pp. 185-187.

Matthew, S., 1833.  Journal.  Quoted in A. Wilson, 1982.  "Regentville: An Historical Archaeological Study".  B.A. Hons. Thesis, University of Sydney.  (pp. 5,11)

McClelland, James, 1982.  A history of Germany and guide to tracing immigrants who came to Australia from Germany.

 

Mulgoa Historical Society(?), 19xx?.  Historical Winbourne.  Edmund Rice Retreat and Conference Centre

(Conducted by the Christian Brothers), 1315 Mulgoa Road, Mulgoa NSW.  11 pp.

 

Mulgoa Historical Society(?), 19xx?.  The Shepherd's Hut.  As recorded by John Giacon, January 1984.

10 pp.  (Might not be by same historical ?society as for the 'Historical Winbourne' article, and the Christian Brothers themselves also had at one time a small museum and a historical interest group).

 

Mulgoa Progress Association, 1988.  Mulgoa! Mulgoa!  Where is that?  A general history of Mulgoa.

71 pp.  [Mitchell Library Q994.41/109]

 

Nadell, G., 1953.   Letters from German Immigrants in NSW.  RAHS, Vol. 39, Part 15.

 

Patterson, J., 1992.  On the trail of resources in Germany: a report on a visit to southwest Germany, Sep-Dec 1991.  Ances-tree, vol. 5, no.2, pp. 3-13.

 

Patterson, J., 2007a.  German immigrant shits to Eastern Australia - resources and problems.  Part II: UNDINE 1855.  Ances-tree, vol. 20, no. 1, 26 pp.

 

Patterson, J., 2007b.  "Planned illegitimacy" among German immigrants.  Ances-tree, vol. 20, no. 2, 9 pp.

 

Patterson, J., 2007c.  Website: "Emigration from Southwest Germany" - Auswanderung aus Südwestdeutschland.    Ances-tree, vol. 19, no. 3, 11 pp.

 

Patterson, J., 2007d.  "Planned illegitimacy" among German immigrants.  Ances-tree, vol. 20, no. 2, 9 pp.

 

PLDC (Penrith Lakes Development Corporation), 1981.  Penrith Lakes Scheme.  Environmental Impact Statement.  Kinhill Pty Ltd., 248 pp.

 

Scherzer, K., 1857-1859.  The Novara Diaries.  Mitchell Library, Sydney.

 

[Karl von Scherzer, 1821-1903, was an Austrian economist, ethnologist, and later consular official.  His original manuscript diaries were found in 1939 and acquired by the Mitchell Library.  Published, somewhat sanitised/edited version also exists. The manuscript account of his time aboard the Novara between 1857-1859 is to be found in his three diaries in the Mitchell Librar.   These were acquired from local book dealers and publishers Angus and Robertson on 17 July 1939 (according to a pencilled note in the gutter of page l, Diary I).   The published version,  more complete, and formalised, better documented but less frank is the three volume work Reise der Österreichischen Fregatte Novara um die Erde in den Jahren 1857, 1858 und 1859,  Imperial and Royal State and Court Printery, Vienna 1861-2; I (1861) xii 368, 37; II (1861) viii, 454, 20; III (1862) viii, 436; appendices.   The English translation of the these three volumes lacks the numerous illustrations and some tables and appendicies.  It appeared from 1861-3 in London (Saunders, Otley & Co.).  Later editions in German and Italian were also published.]

Scherzer, K., 1857-1859.  The Novara Diaries.  - Transcription by Mrs Dymphyna Clark, 1995.  

 

[This and other interesting considerations of Dr Karl Scherzer and others of the Novara scientific expedition, may be found on the Michael Organ website - www.michaelorgan.org.au ]. 

 

State Archives.   German Migration and settlement in NSW.  Archives in Brief, No. 50.

 

Tampke, Jürgen (Ed.), 1982.  Wunderbar Country - Germans look at Australia, 1850-1914. Hale & Iremonger, Sydney. 

 

Tampke, Jürgen and Doxford, Colin.   Australia, Willkommen: a history of the Germans in Australia.

 

Vondra, Josef , 1981.  German-Speaking Settlers in Australia. Cavalier Press, Melbourne.

 

Watson, J.H., 1917.  Mulgoa, present and past.  The Journal of the Royal Australian Historical Society. Vol 4, pt 3.